Treasure Hunters Challenge »
It looks like NBC is getting into the game with their new Treasure Hunters show. They have created a Treasure Hunters Challenge site that you can play to enhance the experience. While not as immense in scope as The Hanso Foundation, it's still not bad (and you may win money). What's more is that it seems to have some end in site, while The Lost Experience seems almost never-ending.
While I originally started to put the details of the challenges here in this one entry, it quickly overwhelmed the size of this entry. So in order to make things a little more manageable, I've broken each week out into its very own entry, which should help to keep things somewhat orderly and help you to find what you need a little faster. At least that's the plan. Things may change once we see what's working and what's not. Stay tuned for further developments on that front.
Each week is listed, along with the primary focus of that week's challenge, which may or may not agree with what you think the challenge should be named. I'm not trying to be difficult (I promise), but I figured that it would be better to give the challenge some sort of descriptive name, rather than just "Week 1", "Week 2", "Week 3", and hopefully what is there will be enough to help you find what you need. If not, I'm sorry. Click the link and read up to see if it's what you need. If not, come on back and try the next week. Ultimately there are only 9 challenges (and only 8 weeks) so it shouldn't take long.
- Week 1: Golden Spruce
- Week 2: Abraham Lincoln
- Week 3: West Point
- Week 4: Thomas Edison
- Week 5: Fulton Paddleboat
- Week 6: Ghost Town
- Week 7: Sleepy Hollow
- Week 8: Spanish Doubloon (and Fireplace)
Just a reminder: Since the details were getting so long, I've split this post into detailed reviews of each week's challenge. Check back here, where I'll update this list with links to each review, or keep an eye out for the detailed reviews.
If you want to discuss the overall game theory, discuss it here please, and leave the other entries for challenge-specific information.
Update August 15, 2006: For those who have been waiting, the answer has been posted.
We were indeed looking for the Star Spangled Banner at the Smithsonian National Museum of American History. Apparently either Smithsonian and/or The National Museum of American History was accepted as a correct answer. The ten winners names have been posted.
Thanks, RobH, for the pointer to the post, and to everyone for playing along! If anyone who participated here was among them, congratulations and good luck in the contest!
Comments (142)
So, I've been playing the Treasure Hunter game on NBC's website. Found this site just before I started game 6. OK, I admit I Googled for help with game 5... where to take the steamboat the first time. Thanks for nudging me at the point where I was stuck. :-)
I finished the game without further help after that. Glad I didn't cheat (more, that is). ;-) OK, so the real reason I'm posting is to get a few things understood in the grand scheme of things. After playing each game, I collect a game piece... but I don't get how it fits into solving where the treasure can be found? Is it possible to figure that out before playing all the games and collecting all the game pieces? I mean, if one was really clever, might someone actually figure out where the treasure can be found after game one, two, three? Or does having all the games pieces in the right spot on the game board "unlock" another clue to finding the treasure?
And the notepad clues... I've noticed that these are the same clues as teased in the shows during the contestants' hunt. There are words circled in red... appears to make a sentence as the clues are obtained. The weekly puzzles are fun and interesting, but the game pieces and notepad clues... I am just not putting two and two together here with these elements. Can someone give insight?
OK... I think my questions have been answered by what I've read about the theories discussed on the Treasure Hunters discussion board. Check out this link.
Posted by JR | July 27, 2006 11:33 PM
Remember the coordinates we were given at the beginning of the game? Not the puzzle that took us to Bodie, but the original coordinates? It said we would be told when to go there. Anyone have any idea about the coordinates?
Posted by Patrick | July 30, 2006 5:56 PM
First coordinate is address for Genworth as given in the brown book and second is Kew Gardens London (funny thing there is a Queen Charlotte Cottage at Kew Garden...and "it is the garden you seek"?)
Posted by Paribanou | July 31, 2006 3:35 PM
Thanks for yor response, Paribanou. Where did you get the second location, Kew Gardens London, from?
Posted by Patrick | July 31, 2006 10:24 PM
I dont know what they want for the gameboard answer. I know that the pieces fit together as an aerial picture of the mall (washington mon. white house, lincoln mem, and smithsonian) in washington d.c. but have no idea if that is what they are wanting for an answer anyone have any clues on that???
Posted by Bamamarine | July 31, 2006 10:59 PM
Did we need to know about Kew Gardens in London?
Posted by Anonymous | July 31, 2006 11:01 PM
I dont see what that has to do with this puzzle?
Posted by Kelly | July 31, 2006 11:06 PM
The notebook clues are asking where the early symbol is laid out?? The symbol I'm assuming is the puzzle pieces put together in the correct way... and even if they aren't... its still Washington D.C.
Posted by Kelly | July 31, 2006 11:12 PM
I don't know anything about anything in London it does not seem important. The key is to figure out what answer they want out of that map of the mall the pieces make. I confirmed the pic on Google earth just zoom in on D.C. and voila you have you pieces arranged for you.
Posted by Bamamrine | July 31, 2006 11:13 PM
Hey Kelly - I am thinking maybe something in the Smithsonian but, all my guesses have been about the mall or Washington D.C. maybe next weeks clue will answer all??
Posted by Anonymous | July 31, 2006 11:15 PM
I hope so, I've been into this religiously... and I can't wait to see what the final answer is... I've guessed everything from the mall to the nation's capitol to D.C.
Posted by Kelly | July 31, 2006 11:16 PM
I'm seeing Washington D.C. as well, but I didn't know if I should put "Washington D.C." or "The Mall"
Posted by Trish | July 31, 2006 11:18 PM
Well we know for a fact that is in D.C. but as crazy as this game is they wiil want the room number in the Smithsonian to get it right lol.
Posted by Bamamrine | July 31, 2006 11:18 PM
I put both Trish, I put the mall in Washington D.C. for tonight's guess.
Posted by Bamamrine | July 31, 2006 11:19 PM
The symbol... is the Flag. Specifically ... looking at the other clues - the original flag that inspired the Star Spangled Banner that was flown over Ft. McHenry - just my thinking...we shall see in time.
Posted by Tess | July 31, 2006 11:54 PM
Sorry - posted too soon. So my guess is the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History as that is where the flag is "laid out" now according to the Ft McHenry website.
Posted by Tess | July 31, 2006 11:56 PM
The only piece that is missing is the US Capitol.
I think the answer they are looking for is Washington DC. All the clues point to the city in general in my opinion:
1. Washington monument stands tall??
2. I'm sure it digs deeper but DC is surrounded by water
3. Declaration of Independence was created in dark times
4. The Star Spangled Banner has the tune of a drinking song when Key put lyrics to the tune.
5. I couldn't figure this one out. Anyone think they got it? Maybe the holocaust museum? I'm not sure
6. Revolutionary war? In burning light the plan is laid.
7. The Lincoln Memorial has the words of the Emancipation Proclamation all over it and they were to wipe out colour
Posted by Claudia | August 1, 2006 12:02 AM
Originally, I thought the answer was the Liberty Tree in Boston. But it's not. It's far easier than that.
Bamamrine is right, the answer is the National Mall in Washington D.C. Not sure how exact you need to be, so I just put National Mall. The last piece after Week 7 is the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
Posted by Rob Stevens | August 1, 2006 12:03 AM
It's Washington DC for sure, the show is leading into info about the Masons, and some of the street lay-outs in DC are shaped as masoninc symbols, the early symbol may be the compass and square, which supposedly is laid out in washington DC, so I'm still putting Washington DC, been guessing that since the first clue looked like the Washington monument. Thanks for the info.
Posted by Norm | August 1, 2006 12:23 AM
Think it may be the Capital or the Lincoln Memorial. Tonite I just said Washington D.C.
Posted by gatebuster | August 1, 2006 12:26 AM
Has anyone found the answer to the place they are looking for yet?
Posted by Terry | August 1, 2006 12:57 AM
Has anyone noticed that the Jefferson Memorial looks a lot like a Jesus fish. Isn't that an "early symbol?"
Posted by Flimflamandjudy | August 1, 2006 1:59 AM
Has anybody else noticed that the Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture GARDEN (the round building) is on the wrong side of the National Air and Space museum on the puzzle piece? At least it is according to the Google and Mapquest maps. Wonder why that would be??
Posted by Denali | August 1, 2006 10:33 AM
Are they looking for a state or city for the actual answer or the name of a builing or place? Suppose you have the right answer which may be a builing but put the city in instead?
Posted by Sandy | August 1, 2006 10:41 AM
Ok, so just to move things on, I think the last symbol piece will be Capitol Hill,as for the clues if you search the internet for washington history (and you need to search a lot) and get a good page it will tell you how Washington DC was founded, the rest will be luck to piece all the clues together in one building.
Posted by Marcus | August 1, 2006 10:44 AM
An early symbol, that relates to Capitol Hill... Could it be the Statue of Freedom that rests atop the Capitol Building? There is a lot of symbology and history behind the sculpture... What are your thoughts and ideas?
Posted by Dave | August 1, 2006 10:58 AM
Ok so just looked up statue of freedom and I think we could be on a winner, on the completed challenges there are symbols like the feather and the sword which as you know are on the statue, there is also talk in the history of the statue about freeing slaves and in one of the challenges there was clues about freeing slaves. just researching how the other challenge pieces fit in but go to google and put in statue of freedom and click number one and read tell me your thoughts on that.
Posted by Marcus | August 1, 2006 11:07 AM
No, if you go down a little further you will read that the schedule has changed, and the august the first has been extended.
Posted by Marcus | August 1, 2006 11:22 AM
Does anyone think it could be the US Capitol bulding being it will be the last piece to the puzzle?
Posted by jason | August 1, 2006 11:29 AM
That just seems a little too easy, that if I'm right and Capitol Hill is the last clue, a little more research on the Statue of Freedom, on the statue is talk of forts and guns that were in our challenge number three.
Posted by Marcus | August 1, 2006 11:39 AM
Doing some more digging around on the Treasure Hunters site, and found some interesting Masonic symbols in the Genworth book on the board. Click the book and take a look through it, every symbol in it is from the Masons.
The entire set of symbols from the second page, the fifth page has the masonic apron, the sixth page has some sort of archway with an object sitting in it... no idea on what this means, any ideas?
The final page has the same archway as the sixth page, but now has the masonic "G" in the center.
What are the connections between the Masons, Treasure Hunters, and Washington, DC?
Posted by Anonymous | August 1, 2006 11:43 AM
After doing some quick searching found out that the architect of the Capitol building, and the designer of the Statue of Freedom, Tomas U. Walter, was a freemason.
Do we have a connection between the mason symbols in the Genworth book, the last piece of the puzzle being the Capitol building, and the symbology behind the Statue of Freedom?
Thoughts? Ideas?
Posted by Dave | August 1, 2006 11:57 AM
On the Statue of Freedom is a message that says E Pluribus Unum which means out of many, one.
I looked up this phrase and in a picture it shows the all seeing eye and on the Genworth book it shows the all seeing eye plus a sword plus eagle feathers and stars which all are on the Statue of Freedom.
Posted by Marcus | August 1, 2006 12:04 PM
Heres food for thought the motto E PLURIBUS UNIM was proposed by non other than Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson plus John Adams. In our challenges I know that Franklin and Jefferson have come up but not too sure of Adams.
Posted by Marcus | August 1, 2006 12:13 PM
I don't think the treasure is going to be in DC. That seems to obvious. Anyone have any other ideas where it might be? The clues are telling us where, but everyone keeps keying in on DC because of the peices we have been getting. That just seems too easy.
Another thing. There are two more lines left in the notebook but only one more challenge left. Did anyone think that the final entry in the notebook might take you out of DC? But the final location has something to do with something that is at the Mall? Just something to think about. I would love to hear some feedback on it.
Posted by Jeremy | August 1, 2006 2:40 PM
This is just a thought... maybe the map of DC is leading us to the US Capitol, which is indirectly telling us to look at one of the three other places the US Capitol has been over the history of our country...
1. Maryland State House in Annapolis, Maryland 1783–1784)
2. Federal Hall in New York (1789–1790)
3. Congress Hall in Philadelphia (1790–1800).
4. Current location in DC
Just a thought that popped in my head. Thoughts? Ideas?
Posted by Dave | August 1, 2006 5:06 PM
I still cannot help but think that all the clues point to the star spangled banner (the original flag) and it is being displayed at the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History, Behring Center. There appears to be a huge promotion about it now as well, as the Smithsonian is spending lots of money to build a new display for it?
I don't know... as far as the artifacts - well we know that they are a map of Washington, DC National Mall - and the NMAH is one of those buildings portrayed in the artifacts - but not the last which appears to be the Capitol. We'll see, but it's been fun reading everyone's comments.
Posted by Danielle | August 1, 2006 5:16 PM
I think I'm in sync with the other person who is guessing it's the flag (early symbol) that was flown at Fort McHenry. The same flag that inspired Francis Scott Key to write our national anthem, which is set to a drinking song. My final guess is where the flag is laid to rest in the American History Museum of the Smithsonian in Washington D.C. I do wonder though about all the little clues in each week's game.....the watch, feather, cannon, sword, pumpkin and what the heck are the other two????
Posted by Lydea | August 1, 2006 5:44 PM
The symbols for each complete part of the game relate to the basic idea behind each week's "hunt." Such as the pumpkin for Sleepy Hollow (headless horseman's makeshift head was a jack-o-lantern), or the lightbulb referring to Edison.
Posted by Dave | August 1, 2006 6:24 PM
You could have a point Dave. Last night's clues where in the graveyard. Andrew Carnegie, who spent a huge amount of time in New York, and the clues on the note pad treasure in the water, etc could be the Statue of Liberty also New York.
Posted by Marcus | August 1, 2006 7:11 PM
I found something that interested me...famous Pennsylvanians... Andrew Carnegie, Ben Franklin, Robert Fulton. I don't know but there are very very many references to PA?
Posted by Danielle | August 1, 2006 8:41 PM
What if the early symbol is the constitution? It is laid out in the National archives building which is right next to the last piece. Any thoughts?
Posted by Jesse | August 1, 2006 9:20 PM
Hey guys, after reading all of these comments, sort of confusion in my head is even bigger now!
Is it too early to guess the final answer, and should we wait until next Monday to try to solve the puzzle?
My guess - Capitol Hill! On the other side, the early symbol might have been a cross itself? Any similar thoughts/leads ?
Posted by Pedja | August 2, 2006 7:42 AM
If you look closely at the clues... it appears to not be anything in DC. It could be the statue of Liberty..check it out.
1. Rush to where the treasure stands: Lady liberty is standing.
2. Look on water for its inspiration: She is standing in water.
3. In dark times the words form: Assuming the awe of the statute at night? Or perhaps the hospital, gallows, that were on the island.
4. Match the tune to an early drinking song: National anthem.
5. Mist half covers the symbol: The mist in the harbor.
6. In burning light the plan is laid: The torch.
7. Wipe out the Colour: This is clearly the French spelling of color and the French gave us the statue.
What do you think?
Posted by Stacey | August 2, 2006 12:29 PM
I like Pedja's post. Unfortunately, the clues are very vague and can be interpreted to be almost anything. But, it's possible to use the statue as a starting point...
1. Rush to where the treasure stands: Liberty Island (or maybe the one in Paris).
2. Look on water for its inspiration: Liberty in NY faces East over the water and over Brooklyn (the one in Paris faces West towards NYC) - what is Lady Liberty looking at?
3. In dark times the words form: Perhaps there's a sign in Brooklyn that Liberty faces that lights up at night (or something in Paris that is West of the statue).
4. Match the tune to an early drinking song: ?
5. Mist half covers the symbol: Could be one of the NYC bridges that Liberty faces.
6. In burning light the plan is laid: ?
7. Wipe out the Colour: ?
Anyway, it's all good fun. I'm sure the answer is going to be something completely different.
Good luck, everyone.
Posted by Brian | August 2, 2006 2:10 PM
Hey it just hit me... for number 2... the inspiration for the Statue of Liberty is the one in Paris on the Seine....
Posted by Stacey | August 2, 2006 2:33 PM
It could be the Star Spangled Banner...the words by Key are the clue.
1. Rush to where the treasure stands: The flag stood at the fort..the British attacked the fort.
2. Look on water for its inspiration: He saw the British war ships attacking the fort and became inspired to write a poem.
3. In dark times the words form: He wrote the Star Spangled Banner while the fort was under attack .
4. Match the tune to an early drinking song: The British Drinking song that it was named after was Anacreon in Heaven.
5. Mist half covers the symbol: He had to wait for the mist and smoke from the cannons (to clear) to see if the flag was still there.
6. In burning light the plan is laid: Bombs bursting in air...
7. Wipe out the Colour: Colour is capitalized...nick name for the British Red Coats.
Posted by A theory | August 2, 2006 2:50 PM
And if you check this site, you'll find: "The Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History is the home of an American treasure — the Star-Spangled Banner, the flag that inspired our national anthem. "
Posted by Brian | August 2, 2006 5:30 PM
The one thing that I find curious is that the "early symbol" is "laid out". The SSB is one display in a large glass and plexiglass box for visitors at the NMAH, which seems correct.
However, an earlier symbol was the "Don't Tread on Me" flag which includes letters and symbols in the segmented snake (that might be necessary to use the cryptex on) and it's original lithograph, which accompanies an article written by Benjamin Franklin, is in the LOC - but is loaned out the Smithsonian when needed "for all to see."
I am sure I am reading too much into it, with the key, Baltimore, the ship coin, the star, etc - it all seems to be pointing to the flag, but then again, we've seen how even the most obvious things are often overlooked.
My husband had the idea that the treasure is buried at the point that the Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson and Roosevelt memorials line up - since they are all in the National Mall. At this point - I just want to know...
Posted by Kat | August 2, 2006 6:25 PM
Hey guys...Ive been reading this blog from the outset of NBC's Treasure Hunter game as well as reading some other blogs. I believe the board itself points to the final answer. No question the pieces are showing the National Mall in D.C....Anybody look closely at the shadow from the Washington Monument...its pointing NE or pretty close....Whats NE of monument? Any ideas?
Posted by TJ Hummel | August 2, 2006 9:03 PM
TJ, went to look and see what was NE of the Washington Monument... the closest building NE is the National Museum of American History? That keeps with the theory that I am stuck on (the SSB).
Something a buddy of mine said because I kept thinking the early symbol had to be something that could be "laid out"... he said "laid out in stone?" If so, that totally blows my theory all to pieces. But hey, that's the fun.
Posted by Danielle | August 2, 2006 9:24 PM
Danielle: I thought it was the National Museum bit wanted to have someone confirm my guess. If you google the SSB you are told that Key wrote it while being detained on a British ship during the shelling of Fort McHenry.
Then if you Google Ft. McHenry you find out that the original flag that Key was writing about is located at the National Musuem and not the Smithsonain. But alas this might be a bit too easy...any thoughts?
Posted by TJ Hummel | August 2, 2006 9:34 PM
I need to make a correction to my last post. I guess the full name would be the Smithsonain National Musuem of American History. But I am a bit confused as to th exact location of this musuem. Is it on the National Mall or is it basically North of the Mall, which would be NE of the Washington Monument?
Posted by TJ Hummel | August 2, 2006 9:52 PM
TJ, I went to Google Maps and viewed Washington, DC - all the buildings were labeled. I can't help but to keep betting on the National Museum of American History.
Another note: I was thinking that maybe Genworth is contributing money to the restoration of the flag, but i cannot seem to come up with the donors, benefactors, etc. Has anyone seen anything about this or any "treasure" that has ties with Genworth that they may be promoting? I know that takes some fun out of it, but you know that it's all about the money...
Posted by Danielle | August 2, 2006 10:02 PM
I think the "treasure" is the "Star-Spangled Banner." It is on display at the Smithsonian. Let me rephrase that: [Where is the early symbol laid out?] It is on display at the "National Museum of American History."
Check out this link.
Posted by JR | August 2, 2006 11:24 PM
I know you think London has nothing to do with it.. but if you noticed.. Clue 7 says: "Wipe out the COLOUR" and spells it like us Brits do.... mmmmmm.
Posted by Teknosugar | August 3, 2006 12:00 AM
OK, I've caught up on all the posts. So far I like the theory posted by "A Theory" @ August 2, 2006 2:50 PM. There were a few other similar theories, but one point that has been overlooked is that "Treasure" is capitalized in the first clue. Is it reading too much into the clue to over emphasize that it means something other than "The Treasure" that we're looking for? I mean, what if the symbol we're looking for is not a flag, as I and others have suggested, but a document? Or money?
Also, the fact that the shadow of the Washington Monument is pointing in a NNE direction ... I think it's a reach to believe there is any meaning to that. Look at the graphics on the game board... the shadow effect is globally applied, and it is also in perspective to the relative height of the buildings and the game pieces, and the board itself (such as the relief edges of the shoreline, etc.).
Posted by JR | August 3, 2006 12:47 AM
Well thanks Brian, you are completely right! It is all about having fun, and especially in these kind of situations where you're colliding with the opinions of others - it just makes it even more interesting.
To be honest I'm not a TV show person , but when this show started I became completely addicted, lol. I can't remember when was the last time I was this much involved into something of this nature (considering hours and hours of the Internet and literature searching for the clues...).
However , I really like A Theory's interpretation of the 5th - Mist half covers the symbol - clue. Somehow, at least to me, it seems to be straight to the point. And again, there is a million possible combinations, and the time will show the answer!!!
P.S. Today is my birthday, hehe !
Posted by Pedja | August 3, 2006 6:25 AM
In searching other options than my theory that the treasure is on Capitol Hill... I looked into the idea of the SSB being at the NMAHSI, well the Smithsonian seems to be closed on Mondays, which would make it easy for the treasure hunters to navigate without running into people.
Also, has any one recognized the 2,3,5 on the Genworth book when you sign into the game. Not sure, but I don't remember seeing it before. It looks something like:
2
}5
3
Just thought I'd throw it out there.
Posted by Dave | August 3, 2006 11:28 AM
I am still betting on the treasure being the SSB at the NMAH, however I came across a website that states that the cornerstone of the Capitol Building held a bible, flag, trowel, and some other stuff? Thought it was interesting.
Posted by Danielle | August 3, 2006 11:34 AM
The corner stone of the Capitol building was laid by George Washington in full Masonic regalia.
There has to be some ties to the game and all the masonic symbols we are given.
Posted by Dave | August 3, 2006 11:43 AM
Well here a new theory not anywhere on these pages.
Treasure hunters has always worked its games around events in American History like freeing the slaves and of course the people like Washington, Jefferson etc. So here's a twist on the scenario.
Someone on one of the pages mentioned that there was a shadow from the Washington Monument plus something like 235 in the Genworth book. Ok so lets say that the shadow from the monument was formed at 2:35 pm. The tip of the shadow falls on a line on the game board.
Looking at the map of Washington I noticed it landed on Constitution Ave and if you dont know The National Archives are on Contitution Ave, twist on that is there are two entrances Constitution being one and Pennslvania Ave the other. But what might we find in this building, well the Charters of Freedom Exhibit, in the exhibit is the Original Declaration of Independence plus the Bill of Rights and to finish it off, the Constitution of the United States.
Now I know this might be nothing, but as an English Guy living in America the thing I notice loads about this game is, most of the games on the board have something to do with freedom and America starting a New Life, and all of the things in the archives building have loads to do with American History.
Posted by Marcus | August 3, 2006 1:40 PM
Anybody have an idea why the last challenge had the link to a head stone with Andrew Carnegie's name on it but nothing else to be found for that weeks puzzle? Simply a filler or does it have some sort of meaning? Other then the blatant commercial for Genworth within challenge 3 (flag pole/bugle) I can not think of any link within a challenge that at didn't give us at least one part of the puzzle for that week. Any thoughts on this? Also, I've been wondering about the image in the fireplace as well. Sure looks like the Liberty Bell. (or the all seeing eye base) Maybe a huge red herring but interesting.
Posted by TJ Hummel | August 3, 2006 3:39 PM
The names that appear in the graveyard are of historical figures who are actually buried in the Sleepy Hollow cemetary.
Does the object in the fireplace look like a keyhole?
As with the movie National Treasure, does "the secret lie with charlotte?"
Posted by Dave | August 3, 2006 4:17 PM
Dave, I like the thought about Charlotte. Very interesting...hmm. IMO, it looks like a bird (eagle, whatever) in the window. And a keyhole in the fireplace with quite possibly steps (maybe to the all-seeing eye) that closely matches the A in Treasure Hunters.
Posted by Danielle | August 3, 2006 5:59 PM
The genworth book has a picture of a table with a bible, masonic symbols, and candles... Here's a website with that exact picture (or a very close one).
Posted by Danielle | August 3, 2006 6:12 PM
Here is a link to an image that must have been used in the Genworth book, as it looks like it was directly taken from this website (or original book). The image is about 1/4 the way down the page.
Posted by Dave | August 3, 2006 8:14 PM
What do I do with the puzzle pieces I receive after each challenge - do they move or am I supposed to put them in the board that is there?
Posted by MINNY | August 3, 2006 11:09 PM
I was re-reading the rules from the Genworth book, and was anyone else aware that the contest actually ended on Monday, 8/1? I'm still going to have fun playing, but somehow the last clue has lost a little of it's charm knowing that it's all over already. Chad, thanks for the help, and I'd love to see you get to the live episode!
Posted by Rachel | August 3, 2006 11:12 PM
Alas Rachel, the rules have changed... re read the rules again and you will note a 3rd of the way down you will find this message:
"To be eligible for the Bonus Prize, entrants must participate in a live "Treasure Hunt" currently scheduled for approximately August 11, 2006. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE IN PERSON "TREASURE HUNT" IS NOW SCHEDULED FOR APPROXIMATELY 1-DAY DURING THE WEEK OF AUGUST 13, 2006."
Posted by Dave | August 3, 2006 11:31 PM
Well MINNY of course , that's why they're there. It is just another puzzle that you'll need to complete in order to figure out "where is the early symbol laid out". And, yes, you can move them ...
Posted by Pedja | August 4, 2006 6:52 AM
As I just found this forum, I would first like to say that I think this is great. I am addicted to this show and never miss an episode, I actually rebooked plane tickets, so that I landed home in time to watch the show.
On the puzzle, I live in Washington, D.C. and have been playing the game. I also think its the National Museum of American History. Intresting thing to keep in mind, the museum closes for renavations on Sept. 3 for 18 to 24 months. So, if NBC was going to shoot something, this would be the time to do it. Plus, I was there over at the museum this weekend and many of the exhibits were shut off to the public.
Posted by JD | August 4, 2006 11:57 AM
When you guess your answer does it tell you wether or not you answered it correctly?
Posted by BRIAN | August 4, 2006 4:17 PM
What about the Reflecting Pool?
Posted by angiesue | August 4, 2006 10:27 PM
Brian , if you're talking about the box where it asks "Where is it?" - the answer is no. You would've guessed up to 7 times so far, so that means seven perhaps different answers.
Of course, after the first five challenges it was still too early to make decision simply because of the lack of clues, but after the sixth or seventh challenge you can be a bit closer while guessing the final clue.
Since I did not start playing this online Treasure Hunt until after the seventh episode, I've guessed only once...I hope is right... well we'll see...
Posted by Pedja | August 5, 2006 5:49 AM
Did anyone else notice that when you line up the game pieces a certain way the gray or shadowed parts make different patterns? Is this another clue as to where the treasure can be found?
Posted by baddogjeff | August 6, 2006 1:45 AM
The flag is no longer in the Museum of American History. They now have the flag that was over the pentagon on Sepotember 11th. I don't know where the original flag is now but it is not on display anymore.
Posted by Marsha | August 6, 2006 3:26 PM
There is a picture on the globe in the game room. I can't figure out what the picture is. Does anyone think it has any relevance?
Posted by Tori | August 6, 2006 3:30 PM
So I went back through the game to see if there was anything I missed and how there is an issue with the Ghost Town part of the game.
When you weigh the sand/gold it somehow loses the wagon wheel, so you are inevitably stuck in the ghost town when you go out to put the wheel on the wagon...
Posted by Dave | August 6, 2006 8:38 PM
I noticed that one of the game pieces has a fish shape, and that is "an early symbol" in religion. Perhaps the location is a church in D.C.
Did anyone else notice the faint shape of a building (or something!) in the background on the globe in the graveyard building? There's DEFINITELY something there that doesn't move as the continents move! What do ya think??
Posted by bonnie | August 6, 2006 10:43 PM
Here is the question: Since I have two vouchers collected through the challenges, and if I manage somehow to save them in the eighth/last challenge, will I be able to use them to guess the final answer (I'm thinking of a possibility of revealing a couple of letters from the final destination by using each one of the vouchers, or would it be too naive/easy)?
Anyway, just a thought, so I can see what are you guys thinking about it... but you have to admit, it would be really nice, right?
Posted by Pedja | August 7, 2006 9:21 AM
Check this out: Not even once has anybody mentioned MOUNT RUSHMORE, very well known as one of the biggest "American National Treasures"!
So there it is, another potential hint to think about in this interesting quest of ours...
Posted by Pedja | August 7, 2006 9:53 AM
Don't know about the second insurance policy, Pedja, though I've had the same thought. I've made sure not to use either of them, just in case.
Perhaps the ninth clue will be revealed - at least partially - if you have the insurance policies.
I suspect we'll all know something more tonight.
Posted by Chad Everett | August 7, 2006 9:58 AM
I'm thinking the 9th clue is just going to be a compilation of the circled words. I'm also thinking we are all getting too analytical (I have that tendency).
The 'research' part of the online game was simple. I don't think they'd push the research up several levels. After all, NBC really wants to draw names. If it is too hard, they won't have a big pool to draw from, and they may lose ratings.
Myself...I'm waiting until this week's challenge can be completed to see the solution. I truly believe NBC's goal was to hook you into the game, but make it easy at the end.
We'll see.
Posted by Andy | August 7, 2006 10:06 AM
I'd have to agree with Andy. They don't want just five people (for instance) to get the answer correct. They'd much rather have thousands from which to pull their winners.
Assuming they have more than the number they need, there will have to be a drawing. Whether one person is left out or a hundred thousand is somewhat irrelevant to them.
At that point, they want the eyeballs, as that means their advertising dollars are increased.
Sure, it helps those of us who are playing (increases our odds of winning), but to the network it's better for them if they have more (potential) winners in the pool, so they don't want it to be more difficult - fewer people will play next season, meaning they make less money, making it less possible for the show to come back.
It's a vicious circle.
Posted by Chad Everett | August 7, 2006 10:30 AM
Going back to the post about the Globe in the graveyard scene. There is a green/blue line on the globe that when alligned shows the picture in the background perfectly. The picture appears to be a sunset showing up between two buildings. There appears to be a small sign in front of the building on the left. Anybody figure out what the matches are for?
Posted by Lzrdkng | August 7, 2006 11:48 AM
I see the buildings in the globe... can anyone get a screen capture of this image?
Posted by Dave | August 7, 2006 12:17 PM
You have to remember that this appears like a regular 2-D image but becasue it is on a sphere the image is obscured. But I can now clearly see a ribbed column on the right hand side.
Posted by Lzrdkng | August 7, 2006 12:21 PM
Thanks for this site. I would have given up without it and just not had as much fun as I have had. If I win (not likely) I will share!
Posted by nancy | August 7, 2006 12:38 PM
Maybe it's just me, but the "image" in the globe looks to me like a reflection, not a picture. Moreover, the reflection looks like the game room - with the fireplace being the prominent feature.
Reload game 6 (Bodie) and visit the globe. You'll see the same image (less the blue-green line, unless I'm just missing it). Chances are the programmers of the Challenge just copied the code from one challenge to the next, rather than rewrite the whole thing.
That doesn't mean nothing is there - just that it's not new to week 7.
Posted by Chad Everett | August 7, 2006 12:42 PM
I see what you mean by the image being the same in Game 6 as in the Game 7. But after looking at the globe in Game 6, the symbol in the fireplace goes away when you click on the globe from the gameroom.
Posted by Lzrdkng | August 7, 2006 2:57 PM
Has anyone looked in the Genworth Book at the begining? Because there is a clue in it. At least that's what I think.
7 stars, Maryland is the 7th state in the union. And in Maryland they have the Maryland Historical Society. Which holds the Original Manuscript of "The Star Spangled Banner", which was a drinking song back in the day...just a few things to think about.
Posted by Jeremy | August 7, 2006 4:33 PM
Anyone know of any signifigance of the wording on the sides of the clues we find?
Posted by james | August 7, 2006 5:11 PM
New to this site and it is much appreciated. After sorting through all of the crazy and not so crazy theories out there, I believe that the "symbol" that is laid out is the masonic symbol in the Capital Mall. It is clearly seen on most DC maps and for a clearer picture you can check out one of the many satanic conspiracy sites out there.
Any thoughts?
Posted by Brent Jones | August 7, 2006 6:58 PM
The Masonic conspiracy of DC is an interesting thought, as I just got done watching the Freemason special on the History Channel, which discusses the issue at hand. Modern maps show that the pentagram is incomplete, and you could find the square and compass in almost any major city.
I do believe there is a Masonic connection between TH and DC, but my best throught as of now is George Washington and the Capitol Building. He laid the cornerstone of the Capitol in full Mason regalia.
I think one of the connections we will see in a future episode is that George Washington was an key player in the American Revolution. He acted as the liason between the American Colonies and England until 1774 when the British imposed the Intolerable Acts on the colonies; during those two years actions lead by our founding faters lead to the American Revolution and all that happened in 1776.
Just a thought... throwing that out there, you can toss it right back if it does not fit.
Posted by Dave | August 7, 2006 7:37 PM
Hey, Dave. I am not so easily swayed. I am going back and forth on the SSB and now have added The GW Masonic National Memorial and/or the cornerstone of the Capitol to my list of possibilities. Every picture in the Genworth book appears in the GWMNM and their are numerous references to the cornerstone at tht site.
However, someone did state that the SSB is no longer at the NMAH, which appears to be incorrect according to their website. The petagon flag is on exhibit, but the SSB is as well and it closes on September 4, 2006. Just in time for a major plug for the renovations.
Five more minutes and we shall receive a clue that may break one out of three possibilities for my guesses (man it was so much easier when there was only one!).
Posted by Danielle | August 7, 2006 8:57 PM
Does anyone know the order of the pieces for the final puzzle with all the pieces we have collected after each challenge? I am not sure if I'm doing it right. Thanks!
Posted by Lori | August 8, 2006 8:49 AM
The last clue "I seek thy reef"...you can rearrange the letters and get "The key is free". Could this be pointing towards Francis Scott Key and the Star Spangled Banner?
Posted by Ron | August 8, 2006 9:00 AM
I can not figure out where to make the cut to get the order of the symbols. Can anyone help?
Posted by Paul | August 8, 2006 9:10 AM
I think that's as good an idea as any, which would likely make "reef" translate to "free", making a bit more sense. Using that...
The original copy of the song is apparently at the Maryland Historical Society, which is charging a $1 admission through September. Not much, but not quite free either. Admission to the NMAH, however, is free.
Posted by Chad Everett | August 8, 2006 9:12 AM
I am going to go with the SSB at NMAH, as the NMAH is located on Independence Ave. in Washington, DC
Posted by Dave | August 8, 2006 9:38 AM
I tried the smithsonian institure earlier which is home to the NMAH, but I am trying to figure out the significance of the circled words in the clues, any thoughts.
Posted by Brad | August 8, 2006 1:23 PM
I am convinced the final answer is St. George Lighthouse reef. This is what I found regarding this location.
The Brother Jonathan was a steamboat for the Pacific Mail that crashed on an uncharted reef near Point St. George, off the coast of Crescent City, California, on July 30, 1865. It was carrying 215 passengers, 700 tons of freight, 300 barrels of whiskey, 54 crew, and between $800,000 and $1 million in gold coins and bullion. Only 16 survived the wreck. In less then 12 minutes the ship sank, 227 lives were lost. No salvage was attempted.
A memorial for the deceased, registered as California Historical Landmark #541, sits at Brother Jonathan Vista Point in Crescent City. The shipwreck is listed in the National Register of Historic Places.
The Saint George Reef Lighthouse was built in response to this disaster.
Posted by zag66 | August 8, 2006 1:26 PM
Did anyone notice the blimp in the show in the right hand corner over DCFounder's Hall? The message on the blimp says Independence for the People. I'm wondering is it the Rotunda for the Charters of Freedom in Washington,DC. The National Archives building admission is free, many of the writers and founding fathers belonged to the free masons, the shadow from the monument points to the entrance on constitution ave. Just an idea they recently were flooded out etc.Should we just put Washington or something more specific?
Posted by heather | August 8, 2006 2:10 PM
The early symbol treaure is of course the Star Spangled Banner of 1812 that was flown over Ft. McHenry during the battle of Balitmore and Francis Scott Key wrote the poem, which later became the song to the tune of "Anacreon in Heaven" an old drinking song which later bacame our national anthem years later in March of 1931.
The SSB flag is indeed going to be laid in the Smithonian National Museum of American History after it is completely restored and it will then be laid not hung vertical as it is today.
The NMAH will be closed on Sept 4th 2006 for
the next three years for this redue and they will take the complete flag apart stitch by stitch.
After the SSB is finished it will be returned to the heart of the NMAH, installed in a new flag room and we will all be able to see it in fine condition once again. It truly is one of our treausred peices of American history.
I do believe that it is the early symbol referred to in the clues which should make the answer "Smithsonian National Mueseum of American History" in the National Mall. My thoughts go to the last clue however, what does "I seek the reef" have to do with the SSB if it is indeed the early symbol.
As we finished the last parts of the game the Besty Ross five star cutting process was indeed clever but most people fold to this method to the right and in this game you folded to the left, then the white line became visible for the cutting into the genworth compass.
I must have folded this star a hundered times for my daughter while she was growing up and this I learned in grade school when we studied the flag and it's meaning to the United States and how to honor it. Every day we started off our class room with the pledge to the flag and sang the verse of the Star Spangled Banner. This of course is not done in our school room of today
a shame in many ways, but times they do change.
I have given it some thought and I am pretty sure that I am on the money for the answer, of course this remains to be seen. But this Reef thing is has me stumped I can't for the life of me come up with how to connect it to the rest of the circled clues, WHERE IS THE EARLY SYMBOL LAID OUT FOR..... REEF???? So the Star Spangeled Banner is currently located on the 2nd floor of the National Museum of American History in the conservation lab and exhibit room until Sept 4 2006. Curator Suzanne Thomassen Krauss, 202-633-3943.
Posted by s.a.kee | August 8, 2006 2:37 PM
Well with the last clue he said now you have found the place, its like a dome looking at a building could it be the botanic gardens, they have a dome and you can see Capitol Hill from it, they will also have the flower called the Betsy Ross, which is also in the final clue ref: The five pointed star, any thoughts.
Posted by Marcus | August 8, 2006 2:37 PM
Marcus, in regards to the five pointed star, I just think that it adds more to the theory of the SSB, plus adds some masonic history in the mix. The "Professor", Count st. Germain was a friend of washington and a teacher of Freemasonic and Rosicrucian principles. He had designed the flag with six pointed stars. But when Betsy Ross saw this, she preferred five stars - so they just let her do it her way out of respect and cooperation.
Posted by Danielle | August 8, 2006 5:05 PM
Has anyone run into a glitch after completing Challenge 8? I completed it and went to the puzzle (map) and I have 2 of the same piece so I can't complete the puzzle to open the fireplace.
I just want to finish the game...Any ideas? I have gone back and done Challenge 8 again, I have cleared my temp internet files and cookies, I even started over as a new player and did all the challenges again...but to no avail. Any help is appreciated.
Posted by Shawn | August 8, 2006 5:26 PM
Richmond, Virginia
Posted by honeybear9999 | August 8, 2006 5:27 PM
What is the best guess at the final answer? Lots of ideas but who really feels secure in their answer?
Posted by Wade | August 8, 2006 5:48 PM
I'm trying to figure out what "reef" means too. Besides being a coral reef it also refers to a sail. I agree with sakee that it refers to the flag laid out in the NMAH.
Posted by Sally | August 8, 2006 5:49 PM
I am sure its the SSB at NMAH. The individual clues make many references to the song "Star-Spangled Banner" (especially #'s 2-5). I would go into it further, but most here have said it already....
Posted by Ken | August 8, 2006 5:56 PM
The clue about an early drinking song is the Star Bangled Banner. Does this mean we are looking for a flag somewhere? I think the clue look on water for inspiration might mean the Statue of Liberty.
Posted by raymond | August 8, 2006 6:14 PM
This last clue has thrown me as well. I was positive it was the flag at the Smithsonian's NMAH ... which still works if REEF is an acronym for "FREE" as there is no charge to the museum. But now it's completely thrown me -- I'm now wondering if it is a naval term and the hints refer to the USS Constitution in Boston Harbor, or another symbol like the Monument overloooking the Mall. Damn you, Treasure Hunter-Hint-Writing-Guy!
Posted by M | August 8, 2006 6:59 PM
It's getting close to "zero" hour, whats anybody's best guess for an answer?
Posted by Wade | August 8, 2006 7:12 PM
Ok, I agree with everyone on who thinks about the SSB. I think we are all on the same page there, but is the REEF part that we can't put together. well, what if the REEF is an acronym. R.E.E.F. is there a name for the program at the Smithsonian? Repair, something, something, Flag? But either way, it points to the Smithsonian. What do you guys think?
Posted by Steve | August 8, 2006 8:30 PM
I totally think it is in the reflecting pool.
Remember to save the pennies. Wait, does Abraham Lincoln have anything to do with this?
Posted by Feder | August 8, 2006 8:42 PM
Perhaps the reef has to do with the raising of the flag in Iwo Jima, WWII? One of the most important battles during the war had to do with the struggles the military had in the Gilbert Islands Reef.
Any thoughts?
Posted by lovemy2twins | August 8, 2006 9:23 PM
I totally agree with zag66, I came to the same conclusion. St. George Lighthouse reef.
Posted by scarter | August 8, 2006 9:53 PM
I answered Lincoln Memorial because of the image that looked wavy in the cryptex room. Food for thought, even though the two buildings aren't close enough to get the same point of view as if you were in the cryptex room, the U.S. Department of Commerce has the oldest (early) aquarium (reef) in America and it is in the basement (that would give you the p.o.v. that you had in the cryptex room).
Posted by jason | August 8, 2006 10:17 PM
Did anyone think about the symbol of the Cross that Washington is laid out in? If you remove the left bottom corner that has no building on it, you get the cross.
Posted by Norm | August 9, 2006 10:56 AM
Did anyone guess Fort McHenry? That was my final answer. (The fort is laid out in the shape of a five pointed star. It was the battle at that fort that Francis Scott Key was watching from the brig on the ship when he wrote the Star's Spangled Banner.)
Posted by Lori | August 9, 2006 1:26 PM
As obvious as it may seem the obvious is not always the answer. If we turn reef around we get free. But should we turn it around? I didn't.
My answer: National Mall United States Navy Memorial.
Why? Becuase our early symbol was not Old Glory that is in the Smithsonian, our early symbol was the first Navy Jack, a red and white striped flag with a rattlesnake on it and written under it is the words "Don't Tread on Me".
After 9/11/01, the secretary of the Navy order certained ships in the Navy fleet to fly this Jack. One year later on the anniversary of the terrorist attack the secretary of the Navy ordered all ships in the fleet to fly the Union Jack and keep flying it until terroism is wiped out.
Not only does it fly on the ships and subs of the United States Navy but it also flies at the National Mall at the Navy Memorial. The song written for it was a song for drinking in night clubs and bars or taverns if you wish, called "Don't Tread On Me".
That is my answer am I right? Who knows but I never got to enter it, it was too late but if the answer relates to the Mall I did put that in three times and the rules say you only need one right answer to win. Did anyone else have the same answer as I did?
Posted by taffyfl12 | August 9, 2006 2:12 PM
Actually, if you turned "reef" around, wouldn't you get "feer"? :)
Posted by Chad Everett | August 9, 2006 2:24 PM
FYI...
I put in the National Museum of American History... but there is no water or reef... but there IS at Fort McHenry... where the flag and the resulting poem originated – AND Fort McHenry DOES have a sight of an old tavern there...
HOWEVER... the words circled in red spelled out "Fort Lewis" (the first letters re-arranged). So I put Fort Lewis instead.
I looked at it like this... the line clues were there to help figure out the placement of the puzzle pieces – the Smithsonian at the National Gallery... the circled words were there to figure out the final treasure...
Posted by MrTinkertrain6 | August 9, 2006 2:25 PM
Ok, this may be a bit obvious, but I haven't seen it mentioned yet.
There is an artificial reef in SC called Betsy Ross Reef. I can't find that much info online about it, but the standard quip I've seen is:
"Betsy Ross Reef, Lat. 32 03.2’N, Long. 80 25.0’W. 18 miles off Hilton Head Island. 440' long liberty ship is the largest single piece of material on any of South Carolina’s artificial reefs. 85' of water. Trolling & bottom fishing habitat."
This info is from the site. Other references I've seen say that it is off Beaufort. So... If everything is a reference to the SBB and and the last clue is "I seek thy reef", and there IS a Betsy Ross Reef......
Posted by Brad | August 9, 2006 2:43 PM
Not that it matters now, since the contest is over. But, I still believe it's the NMAH. The new construction that is about to occur includes removing the central core of the building and installing a new dramatic glass skylight. Kind of like the image that you see in the final challenge. If I'm wrong, then so be it. It was fun anyway.
Posted by Brian | August 9, 2006 4:07 PM
Thanks for the blog. It made the challenge a whole lot of fun. I enjoyed checking in and seeing how everyone was doing.
Posted by Jen | August 10, 2006 12:52 AM
Here is my 2 cents on the final clue word "REEF" - Looking at each of the 9 clues individually you get the Star Spangled Banner. The 10th clue "Where is the early symbol laid out for reef?" seems cryptic until you discover the archaic use of the word reef can be a verb which means to furl or unfurl the extra cloth in a ship's sail to increase or decrease the sail's area. So this last clue can mean "where is the early symbol unfurled?" the answer for which would indeed be the National American History Museum at the Smithsonian in Washington DC where "Old Glory" is on display.
However, NBC didn't call to pick me, so what the heck do I know?.... (sigh)
Posted by Rob | August 10, 2006 7:54 AM
My guess has been The Statue of Liberty.
Posted by Brynn | August 10, 2006 10:10 AM
So far the ideas I like are Capitol Rotunda (the word reef has an old nautical meaning similar to unfurl). If the "early symbol" is the flag, then it is laid out for reef on the caskets of dead presidents and other high ranking dignitaries in the capitol rotunda.
Another I have come to like is the Statue of Liberty. If the early symbol is a star, and a rocky shoal is a reef, then the star-shaped base of the statue is laid out for reef...
Mine own idea is too far-fetched. Rattlesnake Shoals, South Carolina. Ask me to explain that one.
Posted by Robert | August 10, 2006 6:06 PM
How do the puzzle pieces fit together on the game table?
Posted by Debbie | August 11, 2006 10:34 AM
...And as I used to say playing other online games (not related to this one), GOOD GAME GUYS!!!
And, if anything, it was such a thrill playing this online quest, and simultaneously checking the answers from all of ya... Good luck to everybody and I will see you when the next season begins !
...And yes, my answer was "The Statue Of Liberty ,Liberty Island, NY"!
Posted by Pedja | August 12, 2006 4:16 PM
I think the codex room is under the Jefferson Memorial, looking NW, from under the water, at the Lincoln Memorial. The Key is Free. The Jefferson Memorial, from overhead, looks like a keyhole to me -- like the keyhole in the "A" of Treasure. Also much like the symbol on the fireplace guard, not unlike the all-seeing eye atop a pyramid.
Posted by slapphappe | August 13, 2006 5:07 PM
Thanks, Chad for the board... hope to find you here next season!
Posted by Danielle | August 15, 2006 12:05 AM
Just wanted to thank Chad for this board. It is the first time I've ever been on a message board and had lots of fun with it. I especially want to thank Chad for all the help he gave me in finishing each challenge. THANK YOU!
Posted by Mary | August 16, 2006 6:36 PM
So who is going to be on the Final show? Anyone from here? If so, Congrats and we'll be cheering you on!
Posted by Selena | August 18, 2006 11:40 AM
Does anyone know how the finalists were picked?
Posted by Mary | August 18, 2006 5:13 PM
According to the rules, all those with the correct answer were put into a bucket and then the winners were pulled at random. This was perhaps done with a computer. Other than that, no. :)
Posted by Chad Everett | August 18, 2006 5:31 PM
Hey guys, it's me again! I will now say thanks to Chad Everett for inventing this little space of ours, and as well to the others who helped each and every one of us to get to the end of the game!
As I said before, I hope for the next season of the Treasure Hunters and I will do anything to be a part of it, lol! Congrats to all people with the correct answers and we will see next Monday which lucky theam will find it! Once again thanks to ya all and keep these posts coming in here!
Posted by Pedja | August 19, 2006 1:38 AM
Wonderful game!!! :)
Posted by Rhana | August 22, 2006 5:37 PM
Just a note to those who may try calling the phone number listed above for the curator at American History. The number has changed. Please call 202-633-1000 instead.
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